How to not convince a person global warming is real

5 Ways To Talk With Conservatives About Climate Change

Can’t do that with progressives, talk that is. Many merely scream and yell and call people deniers (see the ending of this piece that is supposed to be conciliatory). These are some suggestions I found on Care2.com for talking to conservatives about global warming, which apparently they think will work,and my responses in red:

1. Climate change is real and it’s happening now. It’s happening all over the world and the poorest people are the ones who are suffering the most. If Conservatives, especially those of the religious persuasion, truly care for their neighbors, climate change should be high on their list of priorities.

First, they are suggesting…..an appeal to religion. Not science, but religion. Plus they suggest claiming climate change is already happening. (Of course it is—it always has. Tell us something we don’t know. Same for not using science in the argument. This is not going to win converts unless the person is easily “guilted” into a certain behaviour. And, again, this is not science. The actual science says the effects are not being felt and most of what is claimed is a desperate, last-ditch effort to preserve the “end-of-the-world” meme in spite of all evidence to the contrary.)

2. There are many causes that Conservatives can support, but caring for the environment envelops three of the key foundational tenants of this movement: trans-generational loyalty, the need for home, and the priority of local economy.

Try bringing in trans-generational loyalty (that term alone will alienate most conservatives since it’s progressive speak), the need for home (how that is supposed to work, I have no idea), and the priority of local economy (also a losing idea—local is good only in specific cases, not one-size-fits-all). Not a convincing argument.

3. Even though most Conservatives believe in God as the omnipotent designer of the Earth, it is important to note that as humans, we have the power to make our own choices. Believing in climate change isn’t an insult to God, it’s an acknowledgment of responsibility!

Believing in global warming is not an insult to God? Seriously, we just elevated ourselves to God’s level by saying we control the climate. A quick study of religion may be in order before anything in this area is tried again.

4. By replacing our energy sources with clean energy, we can reduce the human impact of climate change and therefore reduce the burden on the environment. Being good stewards of the Earth is a motto taught in Sunday School, and it doesn’t end when you walk out the doors of the church.

Now we get replacing our energy with clean energy as a suggestion. IF we had any, we would. The bird killing, bat-chomping environmental disasters called wind turbines and solar panels are NOT clean by anyone’s estimation, except in the minds of uninformed climate change believers. Land is destroyed, radioactivity is dumped in valleys in China, mines and chemicals are involved. Massive fossil fuel usage in transportation, installation, and then energy only when the sun shines or the wind blows. Thousands of miles of high-voltage transmission lines (the very ones environmentalist opposed in the 70’s). That is NOT a clean energy source.

5. And finally, teach your friends and family about conserving the environment. Start small with your children, capitalizing on their curiosity about the world around them. Moms Clean Air Force provides all the important resources to help you arm yourself with the facts and teach your family to stand up to skeptics and climate change deniers!

The piece suggests “Moms Clean Air Force” page. (I’ve written on the completely unscientific nature of Moms—this will not help the case for global warming believers trying to appeal to a rational listener. https://whynotwind.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/moms-clean-air-force-clueless-and-dangerous/)

Note, too, that they insult the very people they are trying to convince by calling them “deniers”, when there is NO science in what these individuals are writing. Perhaps if they actually looked at the science and could actually understand it, they would realize they are the ones going against science.

All in all, the suggestions are emotional appeals to try and get people to mindlessly agree with the global warming camp. Public flogging of those who dare to disagree might be more effective and would certainly be more honest. It’s all emotional blackmail, devoid of science.  Is anyone surprised?

 

(Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/5-ways-to-talk-with-conservatives-about-climate-change.html#ixzz45jRQSdbY)

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Snow jobs

Two snow jobs for the week:

The “Gore effect” strikes again. Last week, Gore had to drive into Harvard due to a heavy spring snow storm on the East Coast cancelling flights. He could make a lot more money and actually perform a valuable service as “Al the Snowmaker”. Need more snow? Invite Al and you’re sure to get some! Anyway, it’s as scientific as global warming and at least serves a truly useful purpose.

RICO and global warming questioners:

The use of the RICO act against global warming questioners is an admission that the global warming is not a persuasive argument and that it can only be sold by force. This is also an admission that it is not science. Science is sold by reason and facts, not lawsuits. Admittedly, this probably started with teaching evolution and lawsuits about that. People run to court when their case is very, very weak and they hope to con a judge or jury into feeling sorry for them and ruling against the stronger argument. Sadly, that can be a “winning” strategy, in the same way dropping a nuclear weapon can end a neighborhood dispute. It’s completely inappropriate, underhanded and an admission of lying or deception on the part of the one bringing the RICO act. It’s winning at any cost.  IF we had a scientifically literate society and not a bunch of sheep bleating their allegience to whomever is the scariest and meanest and nastiest person around, this would not happen. But humans tend to be sheep and are lead to the slaughter over and over, with merely a word or a gesture. No force needed. Just don’t tell me you “care” about the planet and your kid’s future. If you did, you wouldn’t be obediently walking into the slaughter pen. (Note: People are not pigs—pigs fight back. Calling men and policemen pigs is actually a very high complement.)

The use of the RICO act is also proof that the goal here is not to stop the companies and groups from existing, but rather to tax them just as was done with cigarettes. In spite of cigarettes being “a horribly dangerous product”, it was never outlawed. The government continues to allow the sale of a killer product to the public. Hollywood continues to portray smoking as acceptable. It was never about harm, but rather about money. No one wants to shut down global warming questioners, they want to tax the daylights out them. If these groups turn over their donor lists, the government can punitively tax the donors (except the ones that give to the Democratic Party, of course) and increase revenue. The organization itself is not the target—the donors and corporations are. As for silencing global warming critics, the vast majority work for free or donations from readers, so there’s nothing to tax there. The government is just hoping the saber rattling will scare critics into hiding or make them irrelevent.

This may be a poor time to try this—oil and gas are laying off and shutting down along with coal. The government has effectively strangled the golden goose for now. Trying to squeeze a few more eggs out is a futile effort. However, since there is NO alternative to oil and gas (try building a turbine from scratch with NO oil or gas or coal), there’s a chance some income can be had. Enough to keep the government going until the next target can be acquired.

“Nearly 150 academics have signed on to the cause, including George Woodwell, founder and director emeritus of Woods Hole Research Center; James Powell, former president of the science museums of Los Angeles and of the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia; and some prominent climate researchers, like James Hansen of NASA, Michael Mann of Penn State University, and Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research. (From cityjournal.org   April 6, 2016)

If ever there was list of RICO type behaviours, there it is. So-called “independent” scientists who receive millions, if not billions, from the government to continue the global warming mantra at all costs, including possible data manipulation (interesting that the past cools, the present warms and that just happens to be the way these folks want the data to go). Talk about incentive to keep up the tale and do everything possible to silence those who see your gravy train for what it is. Oil and gas should be so lucky as to have an endless government blank check.
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The Gore Effect

Roundup of the latest news

Summer of 2030 heat wave could kill 11,000, White House says

“Because of the science we have in this report and the modeling that was done, we can say that the increase in heat-related deaths far exceeds the decrease in cold related deaths. And we know that because of science,” said U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy.

All those years of mocking psychics and now the Surgeon General is saying predicting the future is science. Apologies to all of you psychics that were demeaned or insulted or bullied as not being scientists.

In a way, the report may be correct. If the USA keeps raising energy prices, killing jobs and destroying the economy, death could be a result, especially when air conditioning is killed off.  It’s impossible for wind turbines and solar panels to provide air conditioning at today’s level, so the government is just stating the fact that it intends to deprive people of cheap energy even if it kills them.

USA Today April 4, 2016

Well said:

Mark Steyn provided the answer at the Princeton Club Tuesday: “The great thing about professing to ‘Save the Planet’ is that it absolves you of the need to do anything.”

https://stream.org/climate-surprise-co2-good-earth/

CO2 is not a thermostat

If your home had a thermostat that when turned up two degrees warmed the house anywhere from a half a degree to 5 degrees, you would replace it. Yet CO2 has no direct relationship to the temperature of the earth but it is treated as if it were. It’s time to replace that thermostat with one that works or admit we have never actually found a single mechanism that increases the temperature of the earth and therefor humans have no ability to regulate or exert major influence over earth’s temperature.

Selective science

Ever notice how people selectively choose science? Global warming believers throw science out as a justification for “we have to do something” and then dump science when it says nuclear energy is the best solution to CO2 in the air or when it comes to things like fracking. As usual, it’s not about science at all, it’s about winning the game any way you can. Science does not pick and choose, yet its so-called believers do so constantly. So the next time someone says “It’s about the science”, point out that nuclear is the best choice for reducing CO2 in the air and fracking is a wonderful way to get more energy currently while we implement nuclear—science says so.

Can they be any less intelligent and convincing?

“Last Month Was The Hottest March In The Global Satellite Record, And The Arctic Is Still Sizzling”    (headline from Climate Progress April 4)

Please, please, tell me none of these people are EVER involved in the preparation of food. If the Arctic is “sizzling”, I can see the biggest epidemic of food poisoning seen by man. Why is it these individuals never see just how stupid they are?  (Stupid is the only word that applies here—if you are offended, I’m sorry you’re offended by reality.)  A five year old can tell you ice does NOT sizzle.

Humans beings should be extinct

“Climate change threatens hearts, lungs but also brains, says US study)

(from http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/78557847/Climate-change-threatens-hearts-lungs-but-also-brains-says-US-study)

Human beings are incredibly fragile creatures that, according to every single theory of evolution, should not exist anymore. Actually, the headline is more accurate than it would appear—climate change has indeed increased the level of ignorance and the belief in superstition among those who follow the cult of climate change.  I doubt that particular truth was the intent of the writer, however.

 

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Sparrows feeling the sizzle