Obama misrepresents Flat Earthers

It seems at least the president of the Flat Earth Society believe in AGW. He reportedly did not take the president’s comment personally, after explaining that he does believe humans are affecting the climate of the planet.





This post is to clarify the oft stated belief that questioners, rather than advocates, are members of the Flat Earth Society. The Society does not have an official position on AGW and the president’s belief may not be the same as all the members. However, there appears to be one Flat Earth Society member on the side of climate change advocates. Calling questioners “Flat Earthers” cannot really be seen as an insult, when the President of the group agrees with the climate change advocates, now can it?

Extreme weather? Not.

I am linking to an article on PowerLine:

While climate change advocates continue to insist weather is getting more extreme, that actual data does not show this. In fairness, I will repeat that the verdict on tornadoes and hurricanes is not in from the actual climate scientists. The media and activists are pushing this idea. (The IPCC chairman himself commented that tornadoes are not tied to climate change as far as current knowledge allows.)

My research bears out that the “extremes” are anything but extreme. The climate has always changed–and trying to say the changes are faster now than before is not born out by the data. There were times of very rapid climate change in the past, none of it tied to CO2 or human beings.

Check out the actual data. It’s tells a much different story than the one many people have been lead to believe is true. It’s important that you understand that things like Obama promising to tackle climate change has no scientific basis. It’s politics, pure and simple. The global climate is fine.

NOTE: I am unable to verify the source of the graph showing Northern Hemisphere snow extent. Plus, the units on the Y axis are not labelled. Until I can find the source and units, I am asking you disregard that graph. For information on the snow cover, Rutgers Climate Lab has data and graphs. As noted by a commenter, the graphs do not show “spring” snow extent as increasing as did the graph on Powerline.

More “non-science” from the blog this watches

I tripped over to WtD to see if he was hyping Colorado wildfires. Okay, not if. Obviously, one should take a phenomena in no way related to one’s religion and turn it into “proof” of your religious beliefs. The reason Colorado is burning is because there are forests, winds, people who live in forests, warm weather/hot weather, etc. In other words, because we live on the planet earth and this is how nature works. You see, trees are combustible. Always have been. Homes tend to be that way too. Putting combustible homes in combustible tree areas generally leads to a combustible outcome. Sooner or later, lightening strikes, someone drops a cigarette, etc and the burn is on. If this occurs during a windy, hot spell, the outcome is very bad for the trees and the homes. This has always been true–even in ancient Rome, trees and homes burned (though homes dug into hillsides burned less often). The Romans seemed to understand the idea of fire and how it worked. It seems odd that today the “high priests” of climate science cannot grasp that reality.

Also, the previous post on WtD has a picture of a badger and says “You have angered the badger”. I wish to formally protest using such a sweet, adorable (though somewhat testy) animal for climate science propaganda. It’s one thing to pull in hapless, apathetic humans. Leave the badgers out. Badgers understand life and live it as it comes. They don’t call one another “deniers” (so far as we know). They don’t spout meaningless statistics (97% OF THOSE WITH AN OPINION NOTED IN A JOURNAL PAPER agree with AGW. So that would be what, less than 1% of the population of the United States. Less than .1% of the world population? That’s not really impressive.) On behalf of badgers everywhere, I ask that climate change scientists refrain from drafting innocents into their crusade. The badgers deserve better.



Climate change myths and shortcomings

1. Climate change is associated with an increase in tornadoes by

Using just the F5 tornadoes in the US, there has been a marked decrease in strong tornadoes.
1950— 12
1960— 11
1970— 18
1980— 3
1990— 10
2000— 2
2010— 7
As you can clearly see, the number is going down rapidly in the US. In the last 30 years (1980 through 2010 climate interval), there were 15 F5 tornadoes, versus the climate interval (1950-1979) with 31 F5 tornadoes. Approximately half as many.

From the Vancouver Observer:
As I recounted in my article last week, nobody knows how climate change is affecting tornadoes because the records from the past are unreliable. Our fossil fuel pollution might be a critical factor in pushing these new tornado records in recent years but we don’t know. It is a high stakes guessing game.
The last three years have witnessed:
Such an extreme number of strong tornadoes over 12 months that it should happen only once every 62,500 years
The three most destructive tornadoes in world history
The most destructive “super outbreak” of tornadoes ever recorded
The largest tornado ever recorded and possibly the most extreme surface level winds as well

The author appears to be using F1 and up tornadoes. F0 are 40 to 72 mph, which is a breezy day in Wyoming. Otherwise, he counted ALL tornadoes, not just “strong ones”.
NOAA says there are 1253 tornadoes per year on average (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/severeweather/tornadoes.html) The reporter’s illustration is way off.
The most destructive have more to do with population density than with the actual occurrence of tornadoes. In Wyoming, there’s little to hit. I can remember perhaps two or three tornadoes that actually hit towns in thirty years.
As far as I can find, the super outbreak of 1974 had the most tornadoes. Again, the population density is what determines destruction, not the tornado itself.
I believe he got the last one right. Of course, that just means a new record set. Nothing more.

Contrast this with:
The media continues to insist tornado numbers and strengths are increasing as a part of climate change, even when the evidence clearly does not back this.

2. Why is the length of the climate period 30 years?
When a questioner says “the world has been colder/hotter” the climate advocate responds: Never has the climate changed at its current speed. It’s unprecedented. Why are we using a VERY short period for climate definitions when the changes in climate have always been very gradual. One is lead to believe that centuries where required for a change in climate. It seems odd, then, that the World Meteorological Organization chose 30 years for the interval—in 1930. If the changes in climate are gradual and the changes only started maybe 30 to 50 years before the WMO defined the interval, there is no logic whatsoever to using a 30 year period. One would use a 30 interval if the climate was always changing, rather than being stable.
There are also periods of rapid climate change in the paleo records—the Younger Dryas, Dansgaard-Oeschger events, etc that were not anthropomorphic. While these periods have varying causes, some of which are not well understood, the climate changed dramatically during these times—sometimes in just a few decades.

3. Carbon free sugar and other ridiculous “carbon free” statements
Climate change science is destroying science itself. I will note that it is generally not the scientists themselves that are guilty, but rather the activists, media and marketing gurus (though evidence indicates climate change really does not care about the accuracy of marketing, as long as it promotes the cause). Vilifying CO2 and then carbon has lead to complete ignorance of the science and ludicrous marketing campaigns. Pesticides are sold under names like “EcoSense” even though there is nothing “environmentally safe” about them. Shampoo is marketed to combat climate damage to hair. “Lactose-free” milk is sold. Even in science, words have no clear meanings. When science loses its precision and words are given multiple meanings, stretched to a level where they resemble nothing more than fluff, science suffers.

4. Climate has to be global to “count”
The Medieval Warming Period and the Little Ice Age are often dismissed as “regional” by climate scientists, thus allowing the scientists to claim the last 100 (or 10 or 20 or whatever number they use at the time) years are the warmest ever. We are told only global warming counts. Then, warmists claim that the Arctic melting is a sign of climate change and is a global phenomena. How can a small region of the north be a “global” concern when two past periods of widespread climate change are relegated to “regional status? This seems to be a matter of choosing the term (global versus regional) that fits the theory, rather than adjusting the theory to data that lies outside the theory.

5. How much proxy data is enough?
When we are talking global climate change, how many proxies do we need? Can we use just ice cores? How many? Ten? Twenty? Should we be using multiple proxies? How does one rank the reliability of ice cores versus tree rings? What happens when historical data does not agree with our theory (as in the case of “the arctic ice will melt any day now” reported for over 100 years)? Some studies use many different proxies, others only one type. When is it okay to ignore “real” data from instruments and use proxy data instead? Is it ever acceptable?
These questions need clear answers. Data from half a dozen trees or a small number of ice cores cannot ever constitute “global” information.